But thought-action fusion pushes the boundaries. The enemy always plots to destroy us, but God uses it for good. Thats when they came out of nowhere! 25 Tips for Succeeding in Your OCD Treatment - International OCD Foundation, Christianity and Anxiety Disorders - Let's Talk | Facebook, Have I Committed the Unpardonable Sin? I am so glad that GOD is my judge and not myself, because He has a better picture of whats truly going on. Well it started rearing its ugly head again and I ran across this article. I never liked going with him to the hives. Something changed. The answer is to learn how to trust. Please remember that God really loves you and Jesus knows your heart. It's hard to even read the New Testament when I'm constantly having thoughts of blasphemy against the Spirit and so not being fully convinced of Jesus' divinity. severe depression. Any advice? Since the bees die when stinging you, they save their stings for life-or-death situations like protecting the hive. These are often emotionally aroused people who say the first thing that comes to mind whenever they get the tingles down their spinedefinitely NOT what Scripture means when it speaks about true prophecy. By the way the person who falls into this sin would probably not even know that they are beyond repentance and forgiveness. This is used to present users with ads that are relevant to them according to the user profile. As we had two large areas making it difficult for many to find, we decided to combine the Mental Health & the Recovery sections of the forum into Mental Health & Recovery as a whole. I mess up the words sometimes and then the sentences become things I dont mean. First it was thoughts against the Holy Spirit, then God, and now its againsr Jesus. Yeah I've dealt with this but my mind would just say Jesus name in vain and I would fight it by saying Jesus is King, but they are half hearted attempts and more a reflex to reduce the guilt I feel by it. In essence, the reason why they wont be forgiven is because they can never come to the place where they can ask for it, because they have rejected the Holy Spirit. That verse, as well as Hebrews 10:26 and Hebrews 6:4-6 always scared me because of the things i said and did. God does all this for us in Christ. But there are passages that tell us not to blaspheme. Don't dwell on your past and don't worry about your future. When they come up, say, whatever, and keep moving with the duties of life. It reminds us that we must put our trust in Him and be stillknowing that He is God and through Him all things are possible. You speak of trying to get back/closer to God again and then fight against masturbation/porn. Abuse does not foster a sense of security nor trust. He is not the One condemning you, either. Some of our partners may process your data as a part of their legitimate business interest without asking for consent. For example: Whom have you reproached and blasphemed?Against whom have you raisedyourvoice,And lifted up your eyes on high?Againstthe HolyOneof Israel. I feel like I am in a catch 22 situation. Over the next weeks, as I passed through more challenging times, I continued voicing negative thoughts about God. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is one of the most horrific sins. I don't want to go to hell for all eternity for blaspheming the Holy Spirit. With the intrusive, blasphemous thoughts of OCD, the same rule applies. If you truly are guilty of doing that sin, then you wouldn't care about God at all. Jaimie, This is very help full to me I believe I will be clean from this thought Because I am a daughter of holy trinity, I also have these blasphemous thoughts about god or Holy Spirit, but they bother me for the whole day, they dont ever stop, so I usually find myself repeating words saying I love god shaking my head or even trying to harm my self to make them stop, its very trying and depressing, Im not how I used to be when I first started to get real with god, I was happy peaceful and free, but now I feel Im in a dark dungeon and cant get out, sometimes, sometime I even accident blurted some thoughts about Jesus and the Holy Spirit trying to stop these thoughts which made the whole situation even worse Im glad to know there is people that go through the same thing I do, and this article was very helpful I hope these thoughts that we have can stop one day, god bless . Any advice? I couldnt cope with the stone idol, was it Camosh? I'm not sure how to tell my parents don't want to disapoint them. Heres the thing from the moment we are born, we start swallowing information from the world around us. She just had a major breakthrough in knowing how to deal with the intrusive thoughts and ruminations. Praise God for His continual presence in your life, and thank you for sharing your story! The first few years were a nightmare. Our role when our feelings are not behaving is to just push through by faith. I don't know where the idea came from, but I was convinced that Jesus and Satan were brothers and God loved them both. When this happens, there is nothing or no one who will move that person to repentance and without repentance there can be no forgiveness. We know this from 2 Corinthians 7, which speaks about godly sorrow (which leads to a real change in our behaviors) and the sorrow of the world (which only leads to death). I told my counselor my blasphemous thought about the Holy Spirit, help When I got back home it came back.. What was a great insight is that it CAN go away. - Hath never forgiveness.Not that any sinner need despair of forgiveness through the fear that he may have committed this sin; for his repentance shows that his state of mind has never been one of entire enmity, and that he has not so grieved the Holy Spirit as to have been entirely forsaken by him. Hi, Thank you for this article. Your honesty, no matter how awful it is doesn't offend God. God bless you all and see you in heaven! At this moment, I am currently spiritually shut down because I feel like if I avoid the praying and the reading I can avoid the thoughts. Luke 12:10 "And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.". There is sinning; there is a kind of willful, determined, settled opposition to God and his Spirit. Gods blessings, Jaimie, can you please approve my other comment? im scared of being numb and just allowing these thoughts while not being emotional about them. God is with you and Hes teaching you. All who dwell on the earth will worship him,whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slainfrom the foundation of the world. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. There are much healthier ways of getting them to go away, but harm is not one of them. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and the Unpardonable Sin I think this all started happening when I made it very clear that I was done with my old sinful ways and finally decided to start on my path to becoming a pastor. I never felt safe. Thanks so much for this article Ive been experiencing this for some years now but reading your article today has given me a sense of relief.God bless you. You are a wolf in sheeps clothing. What has helped me recently with this is I was prayed for in church and the pastor asked the members of my church, if any one here feels the battle in your mind so much you feel your mind is going to explode step forward. When I first heard of Exposure Therapy I was admittedly terrified of the idea.. Yesterday thoughts started coming in blaspheming Him through my friends. Thank God for this article, it has been a great help for me. These has ruined my life and I don't know what to do about it anymore. In other words, they fear their intrusive thought was actually ego-syntonic. I truly believe that the Lord put this in my path to understand this condition, at the time of the depression I did not know what it was. unfortunately I have not and I'm kinda worried I'm not sure whether this is ocd or schizophrenia but i just wanna stop having intrusive negative unwanted thoughts and forget i had them and be good. I would try to get rid of them but they just got worse until I became very ill. Esau would be an example of this. It just keeps coming back and consuming your attention. The General Mental Health Forum is now a Read Only Forum. So I started to try a method of ignoring them but the problem is that I think when I first tried this method, instead of ignoring the thought I think I ended up thinking purposefully just to not have any compulsion or attempt to avoid it. Its the brains shutoff mechanism. Eventually, as you start focusing on other important and positive things in your life, one day you may realize those intrusive thoughts have gone away. They might be there asking for your attention, but determine to keep putting one foot in front of the other, engaging with your daily responsibilities, without getting derailed by the thought. He loved the world so much, he couldnt stop loving the world. That's one the other one was I went into extreme into changing being a Christian into converting and saying out loud what they wanted to hear. And still don't feel the real world. How do I deal with, what should I do? The Bible tells us that no one is able to pluck us out of Gods hand. Your internal danger signals will be on high alert, telling you THIS IS SOMETHING TO FIX!! The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons), for example, considers such actions to be acts of apostasy. It got me extremely scared and thought that that thought actually cause me to actually do what the thought was. Just recently I was prayed over at church and this last week my mind is clearer than it has been in along time. I'd appreciate help with this. I have anxiety about this sin everyday and I keep having these negative thoughts about cursing God or walking away from the faith and I'm worried that I have a hardened heart. That He loves me and it will all be okay. Could you explain further the types of thoughts that will go along to the beat of sounds? Once committed, it cannot be undone. I have a 3 years old by the way. I defiantly understand the worry about the unpardonable sin. Turn on radio stations like KLOVE or Air1 or any Christian station and walk around the house speaking beautiful truths to God. I feel like Im overcoming many other intrusive thoughts ,thank god thank Christ ,but whenever I think of this particular situation I become so fearful and discouraged Again ,I pray my lord Jesus Christ can answer me and assure me and guide me . So here is my take on this. But it is instinctual with us, like Adam and Eve hid in the trees. Stay strong my sister. I went on and off the meds on my own, and ended up back in there again. Jaimie. Jump down 3. I started to experiment a small taste of freedom about 9 years ago while repenting from a habit that God was dealing with me on. Believe and trust in Him. In this guide, we'll cover everything you ever wanted to know about these intrusive thoughts, such as: You are a devoted follower of God. I feel as if he has let me go. It may not display this or other websites correctly. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You situation absolutely mirrors mine. Trying NOT to think about something makes us more likely to actually think about it. Anyways, we don't know if the Devil came to Jesus as a spirit, human, or intrusive thought but one thing we know is When the devil tempted Jesus to: 1. Its like the thought was there and I let it in. I think theres different fazes to this . Then I Pray to God for forgiveness and tell Him how much I love Him and that I can't stand these thoughts. Like done compulsively. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. I think its good reinforcement to read for reminders sake, which is helpful when in the middle of a psychological battle. Hi Debbie! See what Gods cure for Elijah was. i want to get back to that childlike faith i had on that day i saw the universalist websiteis it too late for me? So we get fixated on preventing or arguing with these thoughts. But anyways, take a look through my videos on intrusive thoughts and let me know what you think. They have seriously disrupted my life for years. What if these thoughts end up becoming intentional? Spend more time worshipping God. Will you help me? Then, I tried fighting it and said in my mind that Jesus is Lord. However, knowing that doesnt really address the question of why this sin is unforgiveable? And would feel my heart beating very fast sweating with my mind almost shutting on me. They bother us because we don't agree with them nor like them. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." All of it , I pray to him, but I think I understand, aside from that I dont even know if I happen to have a bad thought so I confess it again? That these thoughts have become my reality or my true way of thinking. Like I feel like I constantly have to remind myself to ask for forgiveness and then I just sit there and continuously ask repeatedly, but I'm scared that God is not hearing me because I feel like I've committed the unpardonable sin. Ive had Him speak to me .. and I still question . How Are Virgo And Gemini Compatible In Bed? However, when Christ died on the cross, it was to adopt us all as sons and daughters again (see Romans 8). Thank you for what youre doing in my life already! This cookie is installed by Google Analytics. Know the thoughts aren't yours. The best way to respond to that is to gently push yourself, bit by bit, to read your Bible even if you get feelings of anxiety. God has given me in site through His Word but still having difficulty. This forum is designed to be like Christian Advice, only for recovery type of issues. I try hard to live right and please God, that it's affecting me in a bad way. Its the same faulty connection that lies behind OCD obsessions that connect a certain color or number with disastrous consequences (if I sit in seat 13, everyone on the train will die, or if I wear yellow Ill get hit by a car, etc.). And He loves us with a love that is eternal and undying. You're just a Christian in working process. Hi Italia, I can relate to the desire to go to camp or various classes that will bring spiritual accountability, but please take care. Focusing inward leads to rumination and self-condemnation, and it is not helpful. Everything was perfect, I was thankful for everything that came my way (or at least I tried to convince myself of this), and I only brought my positive emotions to God. It all started when I read the chapter in Matthew where our Lord Jesus said that blaspheming the Holy Spirit is unforgivable. I trust your grace to make a miracle in my soul.. Thank you Jamie, this is helpful, but Im finding its dangerous reading about forms of scrupulosity that I dont (yet) have, because some of the horrors Im reading here might give me ideas! It is a misconception to see the Holy Spirit in such delicate terms, as if any small thing will tick Him off. As in, never. For 33 years, he served as pastor of Bethlehem Baptist Church, Minneapolis, Minnesota. I find a mistake on everything I do, constantly forgetting the Master's love for me and I blame myself over it and sometimes It takes days before I eventually forgive myself. But most people never act on these thoughts, so they are never actualized in real life. I am left in great doubt wondering if they are just my own thoughts or false. And i never killed anybody. But this doesn't mean that it's okay to insult God and Christ. If thoughts have true power, why wouldnt murderers just think their enemies to death instead of going through the immense risk of planning and executing a crime? This time I am going to dig my heels in. Hello! If you don't give any more thought to them, they will eventually go away I think. Jesus responded by saying that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. We have seen how intrusive thoughts are Repetitive, Unwanted, and Meaningful now we will see that they are also viewed as being very Powerful (RUMP). What Ive seen sometimes is that people with scrupulosity, who are already feeling like they never do enough, get stressed out to the point of feeling numb; then, to reassure themselves that theres still some spiritual passion inside, they will spur themselves on at a religious camp meeting, Bible school, or retreat. At one point in my life I did say something really negative towards Jesus (which I regret now).. these thoughts have subsided lately but from time to time they pop up and keep going. It sounds like you may be in that avoidant camp. The Bible says the truth will set us free. Yea, though I walk through the valley ofthe shadow of death,I will fear no evil;For Youarewith me;Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me. But now in the past years my OCD has been primarily based with my faith. Hi Jamie This article is incredible. Like do we need to go for counselling or anything to get oevr this? Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is not simply saying something bad about the Holy Spirit (or about anything else, for that matter), but is a persistent rejection of the convicting work of the Spirit, whose job it is to expose our sin and lead us to accept Christ. Thank you for the wonderful article. Since this can always be done during one's life (cf. I must ask forgiveness? Apparently, the kings lavish respect for President Truman had its limitations! You dont want to pick up a paper plate and try whacking the bee. Sorry I know this sounds silly probably. I too need to talk to others in groups like this cause it is scary!! All sin can be forgiven. Not sure. Yes, religious OCD strikes people of all religious backgrounds. Where is the faith part in me? One night I saw a universal salvation website. Thank you. When I did, the thoughts and pain stopped. What is Blasphemy? Unforgivable Sin Against the Holy Spirit Hey Guys! You'll find here a complete and redemptive guide to dealing with the profane thoughts of scrupulosity. I still can't find it. I would like to point out that emotions are not a requirement for salvation. Im anxious about almost everything, and no matter how long I think about these things, I cant quite figure them out. I was prayed over at church and I finally understand what it means to lay it all down at Jesus feet and trust it all to him. Even the possibility of the 'unforgivable sin" until I read this article and realized that I wasn't alone. The fear of accidentally making a deal or worshipping or selling ones soul to the devil is one of scrupulositys most common intrusive thoughts. I still do sometimes. We all who struggle with this are in a battle. I am going through this and its mental torment. The thing is, sometimes, i feel free, the thoughts stop, I feel like I have finally overcomes them but then all of a sudden, they just pop from nowhere, giving me reasons why I should not believe in Christ who is the one and only true GOD. He is still on the throne.
